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Of course, immigration has to be curbed.
Published on January 24, 2005 By adnauseam In International
The United Kingdom is the land of the free and the underprivileged and they certainly prove it by allowing every Tom, Dick and Harry from wherever to settle here.Why do they allow Nigerians, Zimbabweans and citizens of every second hand state to settle here? If it's not in a legal way, i.e, some sort of grasp on British citizenship, then it's a sympathetic hand to all those who 'may' be persecuted if they return to the homeland.

Why does the government say :We are dealing with those affected by immigration problems', yet help those with the problem.Why do they allow Nigerians, citizens of an overpopulated country with few opportunities for its citizens, to stream into Britain.We don't need these people or want them. They bring nothing but crime, their scam ways and large families to suck on the rich British teats. We know that there are thousands from Africa, Europe, Russia trying, and succeeding to get into Britain. A week ago, an African illegal was not sent home because he might ' be tortured'. A Croatian illegal was not sent home because he was 'discriminated against'.

I'm sorry but I think Enoch Powell had a point. We do not need people from African countries, or others, to stream into this country and take livelihoods away from the British citizen who might be unemployed.

If Britain wants to remain a microcosm of nationalities, so be it. But, if the government keeps it up, London will no longer be called'Little Jamaica'. It will be called 'Greater China'!.

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on Jan 24, 2005
i don't know about russians and croats, but if britian hadn't so ruthlessly profited at the expense of its former colonies--nigeria and zimbabwe among them--perhaps there'd be more opportunities available today? 

what goes around comes around.
on Jan 24, 2005
Good to see that bigotry is not dead yet in Britain.
on Jan 25, 2005
Call it bigotry if you like. I prefer the US attitude: turn the Mexicans, Guatemalans et al back at the border. Those Yanks do it quietly and efficiently too. The Brits make too much of a song about it.
on Jan 25, 2005
Call it bigotry if you like. I prefer the US attitude: turn the Mexicans, Guatemalans et al back at the border. Those Yanks do it quietly and efficiently too. The Brits make too much of a song about it.


you might want to check that. we have millions of illegal immigrants as well and can do nothing with them.
on Jan 25, 2005
'they certainly prove it by allowing every Tom, Dick and Harry from wherever to settle here.'
So the UK has no immigration laws? What nonsense.

'Why do they allow Nigerians, Zimbabweans and citizens of every second hand state to settle here?'
What exactly do you mean by the vague insult 'second hand state'? Oh, but of course - a country that has previously been subjected to British invasion and rule.

'They bring nothing but crime, their scam ways and large families to suck on the rich British teats.'
Got any evidence to back up your assertions? No, of course not.

'We do not need people from African countries, or others, to stream into this country and take livelihoods away from the British citizen who might be unemployed.'
But is unemployment in the UK not very much lower than it has been for many years?

'Call it bigotry if you like.'
It's bigotry, whether I like to call it that or not. You are a racist, adnauseam, end of story. It's attitudes like yours that caused me (of white Anglo-Saxon stock, and thus what you would presumably regard as 'desirable') to leave the UK in the first place. Your blog name was well chosen - you certainly make me sick.
on Jan 25, 2005
turn the Mexicans, Guatemalans et al back at the border


Many of my hispanic students might wonder how they are in the United States if this is how the policy always works. I teach kids who sometimes aren't legal -- this is not their fault. Should I deny them an education because of decisions their parents made? Should I deny the parent the desire to give their children a better life?

You make me ill.
on Jan 25, 2005

Reply #6 By: Myrrander - 1/25/2005 9:20:20 PM
turn the Mexicans, Guatemalans et al back at the border


Many of my hispanic students might wonder how they are in the United States if this is how the policy always works. I teach kids who sometimes aren't legal -- this is not their fault. Should I deny them an education because of decisions their parents made? Should I deny the parent the desire to give their children a better life?

You make me ill.


And this attitude makes us ill. Your right it's not the kids fault. But that's money coming out of OUR pockets to pay for it.

Should I deny them an education because of decisions their parents made? Should

NO

Should I deny the parent the desire to give their children a better life?


If it's not done legally , then HELL YES! If you or I did something like that we'd be in prison.
on Jan 25, 2005
I prefer the US attitude: turn the Mexicans, Guatemalans et al back at the border


although the us never formally colonized mexico and central america, it can be reasonably argued american interests (with support of and collusion by the state) just as effectively pillaged their resources. like i said earlier, what goes around comes around.  im not terribly bothered by illegal immigration from those countries for that reason.
on Jan 25, 2005
This issue definitely has two sides...on the one, you have people who are REALLY seeking a better life and are willing to become hard working, law abiding citizens...then you have the bad apples of society who will always be up to no good...but EVERY society has that..not just "second or third" countries...you are going to deal with that everywhere, illegal immigrants or not.

As for the Mexican immigrant thing (sorry to get off the British issue, although it is connected), how many of those people work their tails off just to earn measley wages? Lots of them do. They do work that no American would ever touch.
on Jan 26, 2005

Reply #9 By: InBloom - 1/25/2005 11:47:28 PM
This issue definitely has two sides...on the one, you have people who are REALLY seeking a better life and are willing to become hard working, law abiding citizens...then you have the bad apples of society who will always be up to no good...but EVERY society has that..not just "second or third" countries...you are going to deal with that everywhere, illegal immigrants or not.

As for the Mexican immigrant thing (sorry to get off the British issue, although it is connected), how many of those people work their tails off just to earn measley wages? Lots of them do. They do work that no American would ever touch.


Your right they DO work their tail off. Problem is that they pay nothing into the system but want all the goodies paid back anyway!
on Jan 26, 2005

Problem is that they pay nothing into the system


only when their good citizen employers illegally decline to withhold taxes and fica from their wages.  otherwise they're paying as much into the system as anyone else earning the same wage. 

on Jan 26, 2005

Reply #11 By: kingbee - 1/26/2005 1:49:08 AM
Problem is that they pay nothing into the system



only when their good citizen employers illegally decline to withhold taxes and fica from their wages. otherwise they're paying as much into the system as anyone else earning the same wage.


BIG time wrong answer. If they don't have a social security number (illegal immigrant), then they ain't paying NOTHING! Employer can't withhold without that SS number.
on Jan 26, 2005

. If they don't have a social security number (illegal immigrant), then they ain't paying NOTHING! Employer can't withhold without that SS number.


you realize you can get great fake documentation in la for a couple hundred dollars tops?  and that it's illegal to hire someone who doesnt present you with a ss#?  or that a single good ss# can be used by several people--none of whom will ever claim a refund or ss payouts?

on Jan 26, 2005
I appreciate all the comments and I assert my right to comment on a problem that is getting out of control. There is absolutely nothing wrong with prospective immigrants wanting or, indeed , needing, to use their skills and education to benefit another country. However, it is the bad eggs I'm talking about---the asylum seekers who run from second hand states (and, yes, they are secondhand states because they have no economy to speak of and their governments themselves are the biggest scroungers.Take Mugabe, for instance. He says: "We have no need for extra food". Of course he doesn't. South Africa is pumping millions of free tons of aid into his fractured, disabled country!).

I'm not prepared to be sympathetic to the scroungers of the world who, with corrupt methods, infiltrate countries under the guise of being poor refugees.These are the ones who must be rooted out. It may sound bigotted but it is a reality in the world we live in. For goodness sake, do we want to put it about that we feel sorry for all the homeless, jobless citizens of other countries? Do we want to make massive refugee camps out of well-organised, democratic first world nations? The Aussies have the right idea: "It has gone far enough", they have decided, and they're right.

Here's a thought: There would be far less crime in Britain if immigration laws had been tightened up decades ago!
on Jan 28, 2005
'There is absolutely nothing wrong with prospective immigrants wanting or, indeed , needing, to use their skills and education to benefit another country. However, it is the bad eggs I'm talking about ...'
Adnauseam, you are a hypocrite. Remember, you said this in your initial post: 'They bring nothing but crime, their scam ways and large families to suck on the rich British teats.'

'The Aussies have the right idea: "It has gone far enough", they have decided, and they're right.'
I am an Australian, but I do not and would never subscribe to this racist bilge. Don't make the mistake of judging a country by its prime minister. eg. Don't judge Zimbabweans according to Mugabe. I suspect you and Tony Blair (right-wing lackey though he may be) might have one or two differences of opinion.

'Here's a thought: There would be far less crime in Britain if immigration laws had been tightened up decades ago!'
That's not a thought, it's just ignorant prejudice in the absence of any evidence. HERE'S a thought - you are a racist pig.
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