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Published on April 18, 2008 By adnauseam In Current Events

If George Bush, Condoleeza Rice and Tony Blair--and many others before them--cannot solve the Palestinian problem, why criticize Jimmy Carter for trying to do something about it by meeting Hamas.

I doubt Carter will make significant headway but the US government feels he should not be talking to the "bad boys". How do you make any progress if you don't talk to the enemy? How do you justify criticism when your own policy on Palestine is ineffective and goes no further than "peace-speak'" but not "action-speak".

Give Carter a chance---He has done a darn sight more for the World than Rice or Blair!


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on Apr 18, 2008
Give Carter a chance---He has done a darn sight more for the World than Rice or Blair!


He had his chance. And he made it worse. You dont give the keys to the firehouse to a pyromaniac.

There are worse things than doing nothing.
on Apr 18, 2008

DrG

It didnt help the time frame he was in. The way I see it, the president is only part of the solution. Everyone has to be willing to work for it to happen. If Carter can get that to happen, the right on, but this is Israel-Palestine we're talking about, and they've been hating each other for quite a while. So, while I applaud him, and the efforts, I have doubts.

on Apr 18, 2008

Jimmy Carter is a disgrace to the office he once held, he has proven he is an anti-semite, he is the only ex-president to every disrespect a sitting president. It was his lack of action the has made Iran the threat they are now.

on Apr 18, 2008
So, while I applaud him, and the efforts, I have doubts.


I would expect nothing less from you. Liberals do not care about results, only intentions. And that is what scares me. The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions.
on Apr 18, 2008
So, while I applaud him, and the efforts, I have doubts.I would expect nothing less from you. Liberals do not care about results, only intentions. And that is what scares me. The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions.


Dude, you assumed and are an ass because of it. Did I say anything about wanting only effort? I want results, I want there to be peace there, but I know that realistically it's difficult with the animosity and hate. If carter can do his best, and there are results, then good.
on Apr 19, 2008

Carter trashes the U.S. Consitution, which assigns foreign policy to the Executive Branch.  Yes, he has every right to travel and speak as he pleases, but he doesn't go as a private citizen, he goes with his credentials as Former President.  The official policy of the US is that we don't negotiate with terrorists.  The ONLY thing that Carter can accomplish by his folly is to undermine the US.  If someone did this while Carter was president he would be just as mad as the present administration.  It shows his total lack of class, professionalism and integrity.

He should go back to doing humanitarian work, he was great  there and did a lot of good.

 

on Apr 19, 2008
official policy of the US is that we don't negotiate with terrorists


someone shoulda told reagan. i seem to remember him sending a chocolate cake & a bible...along with missle parts illegally purchased from the israelis...to the very same ayatollahs who'd held our countrymen & women hostage for all those months.

If someone did this while Carter was president he would be just as mad as the present administration.


do you truly believe there were no negotiations between the incoming reagan administration and the iranians who released those hostages as soon as i-ronnie was inaugurated?

perhaps it was merely a coincidence on the same order and scale as monkeys flyin outta people's butts?
on Apr 19, 2008
Kingbee:
someone shoulda told reagan. i seem to remember him sending a chocolate cake & a bible...along with missle parts illegally purchased from the israelis...to the very same ayatollahs who'd held our countrymen & women hostage for all those months.


Hey Kingbee! Haven't seen you for awhile!

Ah, the "October Surprise". What fun the press had with that... without much evidence to back it up.

Besides, that was a different administration. The Executive Branch changes with each administration. Since they are the ones who get to make foreign policy, only the current adminstration's foreign policy matters. Carter is abusing his status to undermine it. Pretty piss poor bit of unprofessionalism there.


do you truly believe there were no negotiations between the incoming reagan administration and the iranians who released those hostages as soon as i-ronnie was inaugurated?

perhaps it was merely a coincidence on the same order and scale as monkeys flyin outta people's butts?


No need for a coincidence at all. Reagan made no secret that if he was elected he wasn't going to stand around talking like Carter. He let the terrorist scum in Iran know that they would pay dearly if they held those Americans even one day while his butt was in the big chair in the oval office.

Carter ALWAYS negotiated from weakness. That rarely gets anything done... as evidenced by his neutered administration.
on Apr 19, 2008
Dude, you assumed and are an ass because of it. Did I say anything about wanting only effort?


Dude! Show me where I said you wanted only effort? Do not make an ass of yourself. I made a generalized statement, and will hold to it. Your post affirms the stereotype.

Liberals are all about intents, not results. You seem to think it is good that Carter is trying, even if the results are worse than before. That is "intentions" not results.

Learn to read. And stop being an Ass.
on Apr 19, 2008
do you truly believe there were no negotiations between the incoming reagan administration and the iranians who released those hostages as soon as i-ronnie was inaugurated?


Prove it.

It may be (and I know you are going to deny this, and I will state it is my opinion) that they saw a strong leader that would not hesitate to bomb them back (or just to yesterday considering what the Mullahs did) to the stone age. So they knew they could not pull that shit with Ronnie.

That perception apparently was not only shared by the fruit cakes of Iran, but the democrats as well.

Your allegation has been investigated out the wazoo, and no evidence to even support it has been found. Yet you perist in the myth.
on Apr 19, 2008
Haven't seen you for awhile!


eagles weren't lyin even a lil bit; that damn road outta eden is long as hell. if & when it smooths out some, i'm hopin to drop in more frequently. if nothin else, i'm considerably nearer you and all them brats than i've been in years.

Reagan made no secret that if he was elected he wasn't going to stand around talking like Carter. He let the terrorist scum in Iran know that they would pay dearly if they held those Americans even one day while his butt was in the big chair in the oval office.


i'm not sure how dearly iran paid for them missle parts (or the chocolate cake for that matter); nearly cost bud mcfarlane his life tho. proclaiming official policy is one thing; implementing it is a whole other story altho i guess notta whole lotta negotiating was involved.




on Apr 19, 2008
the fruit cakes of Iran


he gave em fruit cakes too?
on Apr 19, 2008
fruit cakes


any idea what kinda cake he hadda feed contra terrorists in nicaragua to get me to take all that money from us?
on Apr 19, 2008
Kingbee: [quote}eagles weren't lyin even a lil bit; that damn road outta eden is long as hell. if & when it smooths out some, i'm hopin to drop in more frequently. if nothin else, i'm considerably nearer you and all them brats than i've been in years. [/quote]

Come on by anytime, I got a freezer full of Brats, a grill that needs to be fired up for the first cookout of the year, and a guitar room to jam in... Come on by anytime.

i'm not sure how dearly iran paid for them missle parts (or the chocolate cake for that matter); nearly cost bud mcfarlane his life tho. proclaiming official policy is one thing; implementing it is a whole other story altho i guess notta whole lotta negotiating was involved.


Both Houses of Congress (which were run by Democrats back then), Newsweek, The New Republic and a boat load of reporters itching to be launched into the Woodward & Burnstein Stratosphere.. do you know what they all have in common? After more than a decade of digging, they found nothing....

Maybe you should turn them on to what you know. ;~D


(Now excuse me while I get fitted for a cervical collar) ;~D
on Apr 19, 2008
you smelly old hippy.


  

you gots mail.
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