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Published on August 31, 2006 By adnauseam In Religion
I blogged the other day and said that the Supernatural was anathema to me. I had a very frightening experience when I was younger and I denied any Supernatural acknowledgement after that. Here's my short story:

I was 20 years old (this is almost 40 years ago!), and my girlfriend at the time became friendly with people who belonged to a Spiritualist church. I attended a service or two and found it quite unnatural---the seances and the belief in the after-life boggled my mind. Here was a church devoted to communicating with the dead! It was deadly serious--not your ouija board stuff--but it frightened me.

At one time I was invited to a meeting with a famous psychic. There were a lot of people there and every word she spoke ("I am in contact with your father, Mary, do you have a message for him?), that sort of thing, freaked me out. After the meeting, our contacts having organised the event, I was introduced to the psychic. Her words to me were something like: " I felt your presence tonight and know that you are one of the chosen ones who can interpret messages and communicate with the departed."

Do you know that I did not sleep for a month after that (real macho huh?), because I thought my room was full of spirits. I was genuinely frightened and had nothing to do with that church ever again.

I know there are times that we all have premonitions and sometimes, co-incidentally, a thought or scenario in our minds may turn real, and I wonder whether any Joeusers have had these experiences. More importantly, how do you feel about the Supernatural?

Cynical and serious comments welcome.

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on Sep 01, 2006
If you have not tried it DO NOT KNOCK IT,


You know, I was about to write an article condemning cannibals, but you're right. I should chop up a few folk and make a nice stew first before I make up my mind. There may be something to it. Let's see, whose attributes around here do I want for my own...?


Cannibilism is different to a faith that promotes inner peace, humility and goodness, and a broader search for Truth. As Jennifer says, don't knock it until you try it.
on Sep 01, 2006
)KFC (Kickin For Christ)September 1, 2006 00:49:17


Your view point whilst very valid from your stand point, does not necessarily make it the right one.

From your stand point it is condemning Spritualism and claiming Christianity is the only way - it is the only way from the Christians standpoint.

In Christianitys (spelling/grammar) view, Spiritualism is wrong.

From The Spiritualists view, Christianity is not his or her way. they do not condemn it as wrong.

The difference here is that the Spiritualist does not force his/her religion down others throats by "spreading the word" or condemning someone elses religion.

(Please accept, this is not being disrespectful of Christianity, it is the way I view how it is preached, bear in mind I was a "born again christian" and would in no way belittle the faith.)

To tell someone spiritualism is wrong or rubbish, is disrespectful and intolerant of their beliefs and views. Christianity preaches tolerism (spelling) but does not practice it very well.

Satan, I believe is a christian "thing", he does not apply in some other religions.(I stand to correction on this, note I said I believe.)

Most if not all religions talk about something evil or dark as the opposite to good and light. Most of these religions gravitate toward the light, not the dark.

Why do religions knock each others religions?

Thank you for your viewpoint.
on Sep 01, 2006
Aeryck - what does the "church of the Mormon" (as you so eloquently call it) have to do with Spiritualism? maybe you'd better go check your facts on everything, buddy. If you've got such a glaring error in your post, mostly it shows me that your other points are probably BS as well and you need to do some research (or maybe just some THINKING) before you spread your tripe.

Why do religions knock each others religions?


Because it's all a case of "my dog's bigger than your dog". Almost all of us feel a need to "play" this game even as an adult, be it with our possesions, church, the letters after our names . . . it just shows that almost all of us need to GROW UP and stop playing this game. Whether or not you have a set belief that you truly, truly have faith is the right one (which I do) doesn't mean you need to put down the beliefs of others. Come on, guys. Grow up.

Don't play the "my God's bigger than your God" game, KFC and Orionsbelt. Attitudes like these just push people farther away from christianity. It doesn't suit you.
on Sep 01, 2006
I haven't come across anything supernatural as of yet...but I'll keep my eyes (and my mind) open.

~Zoo
on Sep 01, 2006
Orionsbelt77September 1, 2006 01:58:06


Stop fooling around with this crap.


Again, What I said in my response to KFC applies to your response.

It is arrogant to believe you have the right to say this to a spiritualist or any other religious practitioner.

You need to learn to be tolerant of other religions and garner some understanding of them before you condemn them publicly, dismissively and so arrogantly.
on Sep 01, 2006
Adnauseum, Please accept my apology that your post has been taken so off track and partly hijacked. It was not my intention. Sorry.
on Sep 01, 2006
Thanks for comments Jennifer 1. How did you meet Ray McCauley? Were you a member of Rhema in South Africa?
on Sep 01, 2006
How did you meet Ray McCauley? Were you a member of Rhema in South Africa?


Yes, I was a member many years ago now. Other than shaking his hand once at the membership meet and greet, I cannot profess to know him personally. I attendeded Rhema in (Randburg way, I forget the name of the suburbs) for 2.5 years, attending cell groups, pre - marriage counselling and all sorts of other stuff.

I must have spent thousands on his tapes (my collection was impressive and well used, long gone now though). Rays sermons were inspiring and life changing, it was just a pity that those ("older") members that had me under their wings led me down a path of their own thinking and not the thinking of the church.

Unfortunately, this resulted in my leaving the church and seeking spiritual food elsewhere, a decision I will never regret.

on Sep 01, 2006
Because it's all a case of "my dog's bigger than your dog".


Don't play the "my God's bigger than your God" game, KFC


nope. Not here S.C. You're barking up the wrong tree (pun intended). I'm not into those games. I did not knock any religion. I've been in all these groups and I've seen the deception first hand over the years. I'm not a religionist. I'm a follower of Christ....pure and simple. I want truth, not religion.

I was just stating a fact between good and evil since the subject matter had to do with the supernatural. There is spiritual warfare going on for our very souls and it's something we should talk about without getting huffy.

You need to chill.....

From your stand point it is condemning Spritualism and claiming Christianity is the only way - it is the only way from the Christians standpoint.


what I'm saying is we need to be very savy and not just believe anything out there. There is alot of bad stuff out there for which we need to be very cognizant of.

In Christianitys (spelling/grammar) view, Spiritualism is wrong.


Well we believe it's harmful and it's something to flee from, not embrace.

bear in mind I was a "born again christian" and would in no way belittle the faith.)


being born again means to leave all that stuff behind and follow Christ. You can't be in the dark and in the light at the same time. One is going one way and the other is going in the other direction. If you compare doctrine you will see this.

Christianity preaches tolerism (spelling) but does not practice it very well.


actually Jennifer, to be honest, biblical Christianity is really not very tolerant of other religions at all. It just isn't. I can be tolerant of what you believe and not bother you, but I can't be tolerant in the fact that I believe that all religions are basically the same thing because I follow Christ. He himself is very intolerant in that He said He is the only way to the father and that there is no other way. From a wordly POV Jesus is very intolerant.

Satan, I believe is a christian "thing", he does not apply in some other religions


Well some beleive in Him and some don't. But you're right in some religions they either dismiss him or just plain don't believe in him which suits him just fine.

Why do religions knock each others religions?


Because they all believe they are right. But they all can't be. They can all be wrong, but they can't all be right. That's why we need to do our HW and use our minds here. Many religions don't request the use of the mind as a prerequisite to join them. In fact, they'd rather you check your brains at the door.








on Sep 01, 2006
bear in mind I was a "born again christian" and would in no way belittle the faith.)


being born again means to leave all that stuff behind and follow Christ. You can't be in the dark and in the light at the same time. One is going one way and the other is going in the other direction. If you compare doctrine you will see this.


The operative word there is "WAS" I am not in both worlds, I am only in one.


Thank you for answering in such a clear manner, with meaningful answers.


I am not up for more religios discussion on this thread - we are hijacking Ads thread which is asking for supernatiral experiences. Lets stick to telling him our experiences now.


Again - Ad sorry for hijacking!






on Sep 02, 2006
For those of you who have a problem with what I post:

I supply documentation from the word of God - These are not my opinions. You will not seek council from the Bible regarding such things, for it would spoil all your fun. You discard the message for it was not wrapped up in pretty paper with a bow.
As such, you do err in not knowing the scriptures. If I did not care for my fellow brethren I would remain silent and let you continue on your merry way.
I am not required to be tolerant or accepting of that which is contrary to God's word, but I am required to warn those of impending danger, just as I would warn a toddler not to reach up onto a hot stove.
Heed the word of the Lord, it just may prevent you from getting burned.

yer pal, Orionsbelt77
on Sep 02, 2006
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So you have done your duty of warning about what YOUR GOD say in HIS SCRIPTURES

Why are you ranting about it now?

You have to remember that YOUR God is not EVERYONES God


YOUR scriptures are NOT the ONLY scriptures.
on Sep 02, 2006
To Jennifer 1,
So are you South African like me, or did you live there for a while?
on Sep 02, 2006
To Jennifer 1,
So are you South African like me, or did you live there for a while?


I was born in Zambia, lived in Rhodesia, Botswana and SA, emigrated UK - best thing I ever did.

The only thing I miss from the African continent - the powerful lightening and thunder storms, the spectacular displays of lightening. I definietly do not miss the heat!


To answer your question, yes, and often. In fact, I induce, invoke, and seek it out in a regular, ritual way.



Good for you LW. Each to their own. Apologies to you, that you do not feel free to write on this thread. Aeryk has a way of getting under my skin with his blinkered responses and views.

Yes this could be a very interesting thread if left to explore the subject at hand.
on Sep 02, 2006
Supernatural is anything outside the normal natural world so that can be either from the "dark side" or the "light side" I have had a supernatural experience. It involved Christ himself and what I had just read moments before in scripture.

Yes this could be a very interesting thread if left to explore the subject at hand.


IMO we haven't left the topic....anything to do with God is supernatural and therefore is relevant. When Paul saw the light in Acts 9 and fell off his horse, he realized he just had an encounter with Jesus. That was a supernatural experience.

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