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Published on February 11, 2008 By adnauseam In Current Events

At long last some of the suspects behind the most vicious attack on American soil will stand trial. Personally, as I believe in the death penalty. I hope they will be executed. However, and I often seek advice from my American friends---so please enlighten me- I wonder why they are being tried at Guantanamo. Here are the things that worry me:
- They should be tried on American soil as all other criminals who threaten the state are.
-Why should they be tried by the military? The military holds courts martial . Excessive military law action, such as treason by a soldier/spy, is handed over to the justice department.
-I think most Americans would like to see these terrorists tried under America's judicial system.A military trial is not equivalent to that.
-Is the sneaky Bush administration trying to ensure that these men will be "shot at down" without proper legal assistance (QV human rights, constitutional procedures)? If Rumsfeld can get away with foolish decisions, so can others.
- There is an element of rash judgement creeping in here. Is the miltary scoffing at proper procedures?
-Are the military enabled by law to do this? What law?

It reminds me of the trial by the military in Romania when Nicolae Ceausescu and his wife were assassinated by the military without orders from the government. Ceausescu was a ruthless tyrant but the military (at a very low level) decided to kill him without the permission of the government.

There are differences of course as the US government clearly condones this trial.BUT the military, in many cases, have a misguided idea about proper procedure.

I may be wrong--enlighten me please.


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on Feb 17, 2008

For these people to be tried in a civilian criminal court they would have to be charged with civilian crimes. They are illegal battelefield combatants and thus subject to military law not civilian and the civilian courts actually have no jurisdiction in such matters.


I want to know how being a taliban fighter qualifies as "illegal unlawful combattant". The Talibans were the sovereign power in Afghanistan before 2002, weren't they? Even if we beaten them, they are still a (somewhat) valid military power in Afghanistan, thu representing an overthrown governement.


What do you call a spy? If they were the soverign government of Afghanistan, where is their uniform? And if they had one, then they are POWs (but they were left in Afghanistan and the Coalition caught hell for that too). If they had no uniform, then they live shows our moral superiority since the Geneva Convention - the International law of record - says shoot on sight.

Face it, you dont know if any one at Gitmo was wearing an Afgan uniform, but you just threw that in for garbage sake to throw more dirt on America. And it will work with some who actually have to pause, research before coming back and asking you why you favor a bunch of neanthanderthal gorillas who abuse women for the hell of it, over americans.
on Feb 18, 2008
For these people to be tried in a civilian criminal court they would have to be charged with civilian crimes. They are illegal battelefield combatants and thus subject to military law not civilian and the civilian courts actually have no jurisdiction in such matters. I want to know how being a taliban fighter qualifies as "illegal unlawful combattant". The Talibans were the sovereign power in Afghanistan before 2002, weren't they? Even if we beaten them, they are still a (somewhat) valid military power in Afghanistan, thu representing an overthrown governement. What do you call a spy? If they were the soverign government of Afghanistan, where is their uniform? And if they had one, then they are POWs (but they were left in Afghanistan and the Coalition caught hell for that too). If they had no uniform, then they live shows our moral superiority since the Geneva Convention - the International law of record - says shoot on sight.Face it, you dont know if any one at Gitmo was wearing an Afgan uniform, but you just threw that in for garbage sake to throw more dirt on America. And it will work with some who actually have to pause, research before coming back and asking you why you favor a bunch of neanthanderthal gorillas who abuse women for the hell of it, over americans.


Not really. I wasn't saying these people weren't unlawful combattant, but it always puzzled me in the past.

My god you are on the defensive! relax man!
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