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Published on July 15, 2008 By adnauseam In Ethics

They call Guantanamo Bay Rumsfeld's baby. Rumsfeld has been proven to be a fool who could not decide what a WMD is.Rumsfeld was also the man who dithered while Iraq burnt. He had no plan, no after-invasion infrastructure logistics in hand and , worst of all, he had no idea how he was going to handle any situation, except by trigger. Rumsfeld was/is an asshole, in American speak. This command of his was like asking Yogi Bear to organise the Olympics because he knew how to swim. As an outsider even, I think Donald Rumsfeld let Bush down more than anyone.

I digress. I heard today that a 16 (SIXTEEN), year old Canadian has been held in Guantanamo after being caught in Afghanistan. Now, I could not give a tinker's toss whether the boy spoke Pushtu, knew how to handle an AK 47 or was going to put a bomb up Bushes arse Expletive not deleted. I also don't care whether the boy had 500 bullets in his belt or a missile that can fly two miles down a toilet. THIS is (was) a sixteen year old with a misguided sense of justice or whatever you call it. He can have brown marks on his forehead or a tablecloth round his head, I don't give a F**K. He is a BABY. What are Americans thinking? It seems to me the rules of humanity are skewed in America's favour. Forgive me if I say that 9/11 has made you a neurotic people with jumpy sleep patterns. Wake up: Your useless CIA has improved since then and life is pretty normal.

As for the little Canadian, I suggest you get him out instead of acting like those dumb observers present when rendition takes place. Oh yes, the great USA rendition. Don't even ask.

There was a time when we South Africans were just as bad. Today you make us sick!


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on Jul 15, 2008

Excuse me, I find a sixteen year old, with an Ruger P-90, planning to kill Bush with a smoke grenade, with 100 bullets in his belt, or a rocket that can fly a hundred meters and deliver a payload, he should not have been out in Afghanistan in the first place, and should be back with his parents. And they should punish whoever broke his conscience.

Guantanamo Bay is not as bad as they say, or else, it's a violation of our own rules for ourselves.

I sleep fine, and I'd beg to say that only a small percentile of us are neurotic.

on Jul 15, 2008

You are missing the point. Children, yes, I mean children, no matter how warped their thinking is, should not not be penned up like adults in a maximum security prison. Are you going to put a 12 year old in there next? Where do you draw the line? Guantanamo is inhumane and should be shut down!

on Jul 15, 2008

I believe he was 15 when captured, reports he was tortured, and was transfered to Gitmo from Afghanistan.  He is one of several children captured, but I believe is the only one left in captivity.  He is charged with killing an American with a hand grenade. I believe, with you, the conduct of the United States as regards this "war on terror" is horrendous.  I really think Rumsfeld and Cheney should be investigated and possibly charged with war crimes.

 

 

on Jul 15, 2008

Oh friggin Boo-hoo, I was a trained Marine killer at 17, if I was captured by the Vietcong {charlie} or the NVA I would have been treated as an adult POW, get over it! A fifteen year old with a gun in his hand ready to kill is just as deadly as a 30 year old. You bleeding hearts make me wanna PUKE!

Yes The entire war was totally uncalled for, was mishandled,!  from the day we entered Baghdad, Badly!!!!!!! Rummy is an Idiot!!!! Bush should have listened to the only sound mind on his cabinet the Sec of State. Colin Powell who was the only man who really understood what a shit storm Bush was in for.

on Jul 15, 2008

According to documents released by the Department of Defense, the three youngest prisoners in Guantanamo were three Afghan boys, Naqib Ullah, Assad Ullah and Abdul Qudus. According to U.S. medical and flight records, Abdul Qudus was no more than 14 years old when he entered Guantanamo; the others were no older than 15.

 

on Jul 15, 2008

If one can kill, and he shows no moral compass, he does not deserve freedom. If you kill, you life should be taken.

on Jul 15, 2008

I find it interesting how many shots you take at the US yet only a small flick to the ear at Canada. Adnauseam, I am thankful the soldier that died was not related to you. I would hate to think what horrible things you would have said about the poor 15 year old had it been a brother, a father or a counsin of yours who was killed.


Oh the evil US and their torture methods, their abuse of human rights and human life. The horrors of the people of this nation. No wonder so many are trying to get in. No wait, wouldnt they wanna be getting out? Now I'm confused. Who's the bad guy again?

on Jul 18, 2008

Thanks for your comments. I won't reply to individual comments as this is a sensitive issue. However, I have two points: I know that if my teenage son knifed or shot anyone, he'd be in a pretty comfortable cell and Dad would have a lawyer on call.

The World is becoming a scary place when juveniles can be treated like animals because George Bush threw out the Geneva convention in Gitmo's case and I'm guessing he threw out the UN childrens' charter too!

on Jul 18, 2008
I don't know how I feel about the whole Guantanamo Bay thing, but I can tell you this much, my own husband treated the wounds of young men/boys who were injured (sometimes killed) making bombs to kill Americans with.

I agree that it's a tender and suggestible age, but that doesn't make someone murdered by a 16 year old any less dead. You still have to treat them as a threat if they are armed.
on Jul 18, 2008

I know that if my teenage son knifed or shot anyone, he'd be in a pretty comfortable cell and Dad would have a lawyer on call.

But what if he were knifed or shot by anyone?

The World is becoming a scary place when juveniles can be treated like animals because George Bush threw out the Geneva convention in Gitmo's case and I'm guessing he threw out the UN childrens' charter too!

No, the Geneva convention does not apply to terrorists. It applies for soldiers.

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